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	<title>Comments on: RIAA, Downloading and Copyrights</title>
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	<description>It's about more than just music.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Drav Morgan</title>
		<link>http://joelfightsback.com/2009/08/riaa-downloading-and-copyrights/comment-page-1/#comment-20535</link>
		<dc:creator>Drav Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Do you see the pattern here? It has to do with control and greed."

Still sounds like Karl Marx was right. At least in his observations of the mode of production. Being anti-capitalism doesn't necessarily mean pro-communism, but you probably already knew that.

And klasic, the only reason VHS/tapes were and are legal is because Sony, the defendant, is a conglomerate. It can afford justice. Grokster was a little software company up against another conglomerate, MGM. Only the rich afford justice. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do you see the pattern here? It has to do with control and greed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Still sounds like Karl Marx was right. At least in his observations of the mode of production. Being anti-capitalism doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean pro-communism, but you probably already knew that.</p>
<p>And klasic, the only reason VHS/tapes were and are legal is because Sony, the defendant, is a conglomerate. It can afford justice. Grokster was a little software company up against another conglomerate, MGM. Only the rich afford justice. <img src='http://joelfightsback.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Drav Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drav Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"for each mode of sharing they stop"

This reminds me of that mode, relations and forces of production as proposed by Karl Marx. We were taught that in our Anthropology class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;for each mode of sharing they stop&#8221;</p>
<p>This reminds me of that mode, relations and forces of production as proposed by Karl Marx. We were taught that in our Anthropology class.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve, I thought I was the only one</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve, I thought I was the only one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 09:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Would, say, the beatles have been less popular in thier day if thier music was available digitally as it is now?"

I actually used that in a paper (of course I didn't get the idea from you. that would be plagiarism) without actually thinking if anyone else thought that the over-promoted-by-the-RIAA 70s, 80s would be that popular if file sharing had been invented at their time.

Cheers mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Would, say, the beatles have been less popular in thier day if thier music was available digitally as it is now?&#8221;</p>
<p>I actually used that in a paper (of course I didn&#8217;t get the idea from you. that would be plagiarism) without actually thinking if anyone else thought that the over-promoted-by-the-RIAA 70s, 80s would be that popular if file sharing had been invented at their time.</p>
<p>Cheers mate.</p>
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		<title>By: watch movies streaming online</title>
		<link>http://joelfightsback.com/2009/08/riaa-downloading-and-copyrights/comment-page-1/#comment-16376</link>
		<dc:creator>watch movies streaming online</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 00:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well i just felt like dropping a comment here because it really deserve a thanks from myself. Really very good post. And yeah its better than the ones that i have visited so far regarding this niche. I expect more such threads mainly on streaming movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well i just felt like dropping a comment here because it really deserve a thanks from myself. Really very good post. And yeah its better than the ones that i have visited so far regarding this niche. I expect more such threads mainly on streaming movies.</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford Macdougal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clifford Macdougal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 01:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the fresh Android OS variations, I don't think task killers are necessary. On my N1 I mark no deviation in speed when killing tasks; all the same, on my Hero operating 1.5 there was a marked difference after killing some apps (like Google Maps).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the fresh Android OS variations, I don&#8217;t think task killers are necessary. On my N1 I mark no deviation in speed when killing tasks; all the same, on my Hero operating 1.5 there was a marked difference after killing some apps (like Google Maps).</p>
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		<title>By: Beatles Action Figures</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beatles Action Figures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 May 2010 19:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corgi  have been the first organization to offer Yellow Submarine die cast Beatles collectors' items during the 1960’s. McFarlane unveiled a handful of collectible toys in 2004</description>
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		<title>By: klasic</title>
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		<dc:creator>klasic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember years ago when VHS tape recorders first came out. The movie industry had conniptions! Oh, my God, they said. This will kill the movie industry. No one will go to a movie theater ever again! Ah! We'll go to the courts. They'll back us up. We'll stop these evil people that manufacture these damn machines. Wrong. The electronics manufacturer's won out. Guess they had a more powerful lobby.

But, ah ah. We can make Tapes and sell them for an exorbitant price. And if we screw the artists’ out of most of their share, we’ll make even more money.

Then came DVD’s and now Blu Ray. Again, conniptions! Again, the electronics manufacturer's won out. But, ah ah. We can make DVD’s and sell them for an exorbitant price. And if we screw the artists’ out of most of their share, we’ll make even more money.

The movie theaters are more popular than ever. I remember seeing 2001: A space Odyssey and Star Wars on the big screen. Tapes and DVD’s are nice on your TV, but it will never beat seeing a movie on a big screen.

Back in the 50's and 60's (in my youth) I and my friends participated in file sharing. Yes, you heard me right. The "sharing" was of 45 records. We didn't do albums as much. Too costly and most times, there were only one or two songs on an album that were good. 45's were relatively inexpensive and easy to carry (for that time). So, if one of us had a 45 that a friend wanted, we would swap ours for one of theirs.
Granted, nowhere near the volume of today's "file sharing" but sharing still the same.

The music industry of that time didn't care too much and it did increase sales. If I liked a particular song from a 45 I had swapped, I would go out and buy another 45 made by the same artist. By the way, there were also many “bootleg” 45 copies of the more popular songs, especially the Beatles. Things don’t change much.

I will not argue the legalities of copyright, infringement etc. This battle has been going on since Gutenberg's’s era. The powers that be of that age wanted control of the publishing and printing of books. Within a few years of his invention, there were hundreds of printing presses through Europe cranking out books by the thousands. The common people loved the stream in information available. It increased public knowledge and enjoyment.

The powers to be of THIS age want control of the publishing and printing of music and movies. We commoners love the idea of the free flow of information. It increases our knowledge and enjoyment.

Do you see the pattern here? It has to do with control and greed.

I’m not saying that sharing is illegal or not. Or should anyone do it or not. The point is the internet is here to stay. The sharing of information over the internet is here to stay. To the music and film industries, you are not going to stop it. You will not be able to control it. Governments will not be able to control it nor stop it. Some have tried and failed. THIS IS THE DIGITAL AGE. The millions of people out there in the virtual world love the idea. Wake up and smell the coffee. Instead of fighting and suing the very people you want to sell your products to, work with them.  Law makers of the U.S. get your heads out of the sand.

But it still won’t stop sharing. As fast as you try to stop it by whatever means, there are programmers and hackers out there that are extremely good at what they do.  They’ll come up with a work around in no time!

I once heard that Bill Gates wanted to copyright 1’s and 0’s. Keep up the good fight Joel.

PS: I still have many of my old 45’s and LP’s. Most are in pristine condition and in their original jackets and worth a small fortune. Not for sale. I’m leaving them in my will to my children. They might pay for a new house if need be. Try doing that in future years with a digital copy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember years ago when VHS tape recorders first came out. The movie industry had conniptions! Oh, my God, they said. This will kill the movie industry. No one will go to a movie theater ever again! Ah! We&#8217;ll go to the courts. They&#8217;ll back us up. We&#8217;ll stop these evil people that manufacture these damn machines. Wrong. The electronics manufacturer&#8217;s won out. Guess they had a more powerful lobby.</p>
<p>But, ah ah. We can make Tapes and sell them for an exorbitant price. And if we screw the artists’ out of most of their share, we’ll make even more money.</p>
<p>Then came DVD’s and now Blu Ray. Again, conniptions! Again, the electronics manufacturer&#8217;s won out. But, ah ah. We can make DVD’s and sell them for an exorbitant price. And if we screw the artists’ out of most of their share, we’ll make even more money.</p>
<p>The movie theaters are more popular than ever. I remember seeing 2001: A space Odyssey and Star Wars on the big screen. Tapes and DVD’s are nice on your TV, but it will never beat seeing a movie on a big screen.</p>
<p>Back in the 50&#8217;s and 60&#8217;s (in my youth) I and my friends participated in file sharing. Yes, you heard me right. The &#8220;sharing&#8221; was of 45 records. We didn&#8217;t do albums as much. Too costly and most times, there were only one or two songs on an album that were good. 45&#8217;s were relatively inexpensive and easy to carry (for that time). So, if one of us had a 45 that a friend wanted, we would swap ours for one of theirs.<br />
Granted, nowhere near the volume of today&#8217;s &#8220;file sharing&#8221; but sharing still the same.</p>
<p>The music industry of that time didn&#8217;t care too much and it did increase sales. If I liked a particular song from a 45 I had swapped, I would go out and buy another 45 made by the same artist. By the way, there were also many “bootleg” 45 copies of the more popular songs, especially the Beatles. Things don’t change much.</p>
<p>I will not argue the legalities of copyright, infringement etc. This battle has been going on since Gutenberg&#8217;s’s era. The powers that be of that age wanted control of the publishing and printing of books. Within a few years of his invention, there were hundreds of printing presses through Europe cranking out books by the thousands. The common people loved the stream in information available. It increased public knowledge and enjoyment.</p>
<p>The powers to be of THIS age want control of the publishing and printing of music and movies. We commoners love the idea of the free flow of information. It increases our knowledge and enjoyment.</p>
<p>Do you see the pattern here? It has to do with control and greed.</p>
<p>I’m not saying that sharing is illegal or not. Or should anyone do it or not. The point is the internet is here to stay. The sharing of information over the internet is here to stay. To the music and film industries, you are not going to stop it. You will not be able to control it. Governments will not be able to control it nor stop it. Some have tried and failed. THIS IS THE DIGITAL AGE. The millions of people out there in the virtual world love the idea. Wake up and smell the coffee. Instead of fighting and suing the very people you want to sell your products to, work with them.  Law makers of the U.S. get your heads out of the sand.</p>
<p>But it still won’t stop sharing. As fast as you try to stop it by whatever means, there are programmers and hackers out there that are extremely good at what they do.  They’ll come up with a work around in no time!</p>
<p>I once heard that Bill Gates wanted to copyright 1’s and 0’s. Keep up the good fight Joel.</p>
<p>PS: I still have many of my old 45’s and LP’s. Most are in pristine condition and in their original jackets and worth a small fortune. Not for sale. I’m leaving them in my will to my children. They might pay for a new house if need be. Try doing that in future years with a digital copy.</p>
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		<title>By: free image hosting net</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 02:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is by far one of the neatest composed articles on this theme. I was exploring on the exact corresponding content and your post totally took me off with the way you understand this subject area. I congratulate your insight but do leave me to come back to comment further as I</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is by far one of the neatest composed articles on this theme. I was exploring on the exact corresponding content and your post totally took me off with the way you understand this subject area. I congratulate your insight but do leave me to come back to comment further as I</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 01:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Copyright protection creates a monopoly, so it is against the free market concept. During the middle ages, the feudal lords demanded fees from anyone crossing their domains. They had strong feelings towards their entitlement rights to the land. 

The same thing is going on, here.  They feel entitled to their monopoly. And no one seems to notice that antitrust laws are going down the drain. They manage huge collections of copyright material; they promote it, or trash it if they want to. And they charge huge fees for the right to listen; they bundle worthless tracks with hugely popular one, and sell only the right to listen to the whole bunch of crap. Are these legal practices, under antitrust laws?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Copyright protection creates a monopoly, so it is against the free market concept. During the middle ages, the feudal lords demanded fees from anyone crossing their domains. They had strong feelings towards their entitlement rights to the land. </p>
<p>The same thing is going on, here.  They feel entitled to their monopoly. And no one seems to notice that antitrust laws are going down the drain. They manage huge collections of copyright material; they promote it, or trash it if they want to. And they charge huge fees for the right to listen; they bundle worthless tracks with hugely popular one, and sell only the right to listen to the whole bunch of crap. Are these legal practices, under antitrust laws?</p>
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		<title>By: M.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>M.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Above should instead say, "No musical melody or song is a 'useful Art.'", 

(it says 'son' instead of 'song' ... sorry!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Above should instead say, &#8220;No musical melody or song is a &#8216;useful Art.&#8217;&#8221;, </p>
<p>(it says &#8217;son&#8217; instead of &#8217;song&#8217; &#8230; sorry!)</p>
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