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	<title>Comments on: FAQs: what did you do, why so much, and what now?</title>
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	<description>It's about more than just music.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: File sharing is not stealing!</title>
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		<dc:creator>File sharing is not stealing!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If file sharing is stealing, then is so is borrowing. How can artists get paid if people borrow? And FYI the labels, not the artists, rake in most of the revenue from album sales.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If file sharing is stealing, then is so is borrowing. How can artists get paid if people borrow? And FYI the labels, not the artists, rake in most of the revenue from album sales.</p>
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		<title>By: Ema Urben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ema Urben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2010 12:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the cost of this product, you get your moneys worth. I bought it mainly for movie watching but found out that its also great for video games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the cost of this product, you get your moneys worth. I bought it mainly for movie watching but found out that its also great for video games.</p>
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		<title>By: Felisa Norsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felisa Norsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 00:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to give you a quick "heads up" on this incredible new "traffic getting software" (released March 29th 2010) called Miracle Traffic Bot ... You may have already head the BUZZ in the market about this cutting edge software tool... THE TIME IS NOW... If you didn't get your copy of this software yet, this is the time to do so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to give you a quick &#8220;heads up&#8221; on this incredible new &#8220;traffic getting software&#8221; (released March 29th 2010) called Miracle Traffic Bot &#8230; You may have already head the BUZZ in the market about this cutting edge software tool&#8230; THE TIME IS NOW&#8230; If you didn&#8217;t get your copy of this software yet, this is the time to do so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Professors do not make good lawyers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Professors do not make good lawyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry man, but the reason you lost was because you went to trial with a college professor instead of a REAL lawyer!

There is a big difference from life in 'Acadamia' and what goes on in the real world...for you that difference comes out to $675,000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry man, but the reason you lost was because you went to trial with a college professor instead of a REAL lawyer!</p>
<p>There is a big difference from life in &#8216;Acadamia&#8217; and what goes on in the real world&#8230;for you that difference comes out to $675,000.</p>
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		<title>By: TheTruthCanHurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheTruthCanHurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 02:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Q: Come on, don’t you want the artists to be paid?
A: More than anything.

I just don’t…. well……y’know…… want to actually have to pay them anything myself.
It’s a freedom of speech thing.

lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q: Come on, don’t you want the artists to be paid?<br />
A: More than anything.</p>
<p>I just don’t…. well……y’know…… want to actually have to pay them anything myself.<br />
It’s a freedom of speech thing.</p>
<p>lol</p>
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		<title>By: Once again the point is missed :(</title>
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		<dc:creator>Once again the point is missed :(</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 23:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Musicians get paid. If they suck and don't sell, they get dropped...just like a crap employee would.
Musicians tend to get paid via advances, as with most other artists. As they make money from album sales this advance is paid off. Once again, if they suck, they get dropped by the label and usually don't have to pay back the advance.

What Joel did was copyrighting and had he won it would have set a precedent and copyright law would have been changed. This is part of the legal process. Look up the origins of land ownership.

The RIAAs argument about the cost of music is based on the fact that in the 'old days' people would still buy enough of the crap that was recorded by the people who were dropped to mitigate some of their losses.
In the 'new days', people don't have to buy crap to listen to it and decide they don't like it. 

Therefore, the music industry needs to find a way of recovering all the money they invested in crap artists who never paid back their advance. This is their challenge and their screwing it up. 

Ours (the music-listening and buying world's) is to force them to hurry up and sort it out before good artists get lost along the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Musicians get paid. If they suck and don&#8217;t sell, they get dropped&#8230;just like a crap employee would.<br />
Musicians tend to get paid via advances, as with most other artists. As they make money from album sales this advance is paid off. Once again, if they suck, they get dropped by the label and usually don&#8217;t have to pay back the advance.</p>
<p>What Joel did was copyrighting and had he won it would have set a precedent and copyright law would have been changed. This is part of the legal process. Look up the origins of land ownership.</p>
<p>The RIAAs argument about the cost of music is based on the fact that in the &#8216;old days&#8217; people would still buy enough of the crap that was recorded by the people who were dropped to mitigate some of their losses.<br />
In the &#8216;new days&#8217;, people don&#8217;t have to buy crap to listen to it and decide they don&#8217;t like it. </p>
<p>Therefore, the music industry needs to find a way of recovering all the money they invested in crap artists who never paid back their advance. This is their challenge and their screwing it up. </p>
<p>Ours (the music-listening and buying world&#8217;s) is to force them to hurry up and sort it out before good artists get lost along the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 10:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>" the best musicians play for the love of it, not the money...That just shows them people are enjoying their music, and that should be their one and only goal."

That's like saying, the best employees work for the love of it, not the money.  So knowing that their boss is happy should be their one and only goal, regardless of whether they get a paycheck.

Yet somehow I don't think that you'd be happy if you didn't get a paycheck from your employer.  So if it's not ok for you to have to work for free, why should the musicians in their chosen line of work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; the best musicians play for the love of it, not the money&#8230;That just shows them people are enjoying their music, and that should be their one and only goal.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s like saying, the best employees work for the love of it, not the money.  So knowing that their boss is happy should be their one and only goal, regardless of whether they get a paycheck.</p>
<p>Yet somehow I don&#8217;t think that you&#8217;d be happy if you didn&#8217;t get a paycheck from your employer.  So if it&#8217;s not ok for you to have to work for free, why should the musicians in their chosen line of work?</p>
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		<title>By: horse badorties</title>
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		<dc:creator>horse badorties</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@RAW-BERRY: Thank you for supplying a further example of rationalization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@RAW-BERRY: Thank you for supplying a further example of rationalization.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raw-berry
I find it amusing that so many people purport to speak for "bands" and "artists."
Thanks for dictating what "should be their one and only goal." Who exactly gave you that authority?

Here's a common scenario; a band plays live around a college campus, tours a little, releases a CD and gets a following. In this band there's a great guitar player who is a crappy singer and doesn't look like a star but... he writes the songs that people come to hear and sing along with.  Like most bands, five or ten years later they break up. This guy, however, decides to stick with it. He writes songs for others, produces some records, plays in the studios and makes an ok living from his unique talents. Everybody else in the musical food chain is making lots of $ from his contribution and efforts. Is he a sell-out to be hated and dismissed because he found his niche? Because he didn't quit doing what he loves? Multiply him by tens of thousands and you have the music business that I know.  Men and women who started out in bands but found that they had a gift and a specific, valuable creative talent, writers, producers, engineers, etc. etc, etc. Should they spend all day amassing facebook friends, chasing down gigs and stapling flyers to telephone poles or should they do what they do best? 
Just wondering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raw-berry<br />
I find it amusing that so many people purport to speak for &#8220;bands&#8221; and &#8220;artists.&#8221;<br />
Thanks for dictating what &#8220;should be their one and only goal.&#8221; Who exactly gave you that authority?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a common scenario; a band plays live around a college campus, tours a little, releases a CD and gets a following. In this band there&#8217;s a great guitar player who is a crappy singer and doesn&#8217;t look like a star but&#8230; he writes the songs that people come to hear and sing along with.  Like most bands, five or ten years later they break up. This guy, however, decides to stick with it. He writes songs for others, produces some records, plays in the studios and makes an ok living from his unique talents. Everybody else in the musical food chain is making lots of $ from his contribution and efforts. Is he a sell-out to be hated and dismissed because he found his niche? Because he didn&#8217;t quit doing what he loves? Multiply him by tens of thousands and you have the music business that I know.  Men and women who started out in bands but found that they had a gift and a specific, valuable creative talent, writers, producers, engineers, etc. etc, etc. Should they spend all day amassing facebook friends, chasing down gigs and stapling flyers to telephone poles or should they do what they do best?<br />
Just wondering.</p>
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		<title>By: RAW-BERRY</title>
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		<dc:creator>RAW-BERRY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@horse badorties: You are naive, sir. No where did he say anything bias, like that of your first summary, in his argument. Please never summarize anything again. You look like an ignorant fool.

Nibien was simply saying, the best musicians play for the love of it, not the money. They play to bring joy to those around them, and listening to them. They are unlike other artists who play simply for the money, and nothing more. These are your sellouts. And yes, Nibien is correct when he says almost all of our Britney Spears' and modern day rappers, are the core examples of our sellouts. Note this is not everyone in those genres of music, but there is a large abundance of sellouts that tend to dwell in those genres specifically. 

As for summary number 2, bands really aren't that affected by piracy at all, their labels are. And no it shouldn't bother them if their music is being pirated. That just shows them people are enjoying their music, and that should be their one and only goal.

Your sarcasm and poor summaries show that you are childish, immature, and close minded. You missed the entire point of Nibiens argument, and really showed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@horse badorties: You are naive, sir. No where did he say anything bias, like that of your first summary, in his argument. Please never summarize anything again. You look like an ignorant fool.</p>
<p>Nibien was simply saying, the best musicians play for the love of it, not the money. They play to bring joy to those around them, and listening to them. They are unlike other artists who play simply for the money, and nothing more. These are your sellouts. And yes, Nibien is correct when he says almost all of our Britney Spears&#8217; and modern day rappers, are the core examples of our sellouts. Note this is not everyone in those genres of music, but there is a large abundance of sellouts that tend to dwell in those genres specifically. </p>
<p>As for summary number 2, bands really aren&#8217;t that affected by piracy at all, their labels are. And no it shouldn&#8217;t bother them if their music is being pirated. That just shows them people are enjoying their music, and that should be their one and only goal.</p>
<p>Your sarcasm and poor summaries show that you are childish, immature, and close minded. You missed the entire point of Nibiens argument, and really showed it.</p>
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